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Post by ryke on May 19, 2010 17:49:50 GMT -5
You know what guys? I'll respond to everything your saying tonight...
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Post by chimaera on May 19, 2010 18:17:59 GMT -5
wtf? did this shit turn into SCU already....
Wrestling's fake guys.
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Post by aolstudios on May 19, 2010 18:24:43 GMT -5
wtf? did this shit turn into SCU already.... Wrestling's fake guys. I disagree. I think this thread is actually everything SCU should have been. It's OKAY to disagree with each other, Dude. As long as it's done RESPECTFULLY, which I really feel alla this has been. I don't feel this has degenerated AT ALL into bullshit name-calling and childish antics. I certainly don't feel Ryke has taken any cheapshots at me, nor I at him. I also thought Saovi's thoughts were valid. More importantly, it's ALL being done with us NOT hiding behind fake names and IDs. Am I wrong?
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mase58
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Post by mase58 on May 19, 2010 18:32:26 GMT -5
wtf? did this shit turn into SCU already.... Wrestling's fake guys. I disagree. I think this thread is actually everything SCU should have been. It's OKAY to disagree with each other, Dude. As long as it's done RESPECTFULLY, which I really feel alla this has been. I don't feel this has degenerated AT ALL into bullshit name-calling and childish antics. I certainly don't feel Ryke has taken any cheapshots at me, nor I at him. I also thought Saovi's thoughts were valid. More importantly, it's ALL being done with us NOT hiding behind fake names and IDs. Am I wrong? I must say, you are correct sir. Although we should refrain from name calling and getting into heated debates that could offend one another personally. No harm is done here though, so carry on. I want a shot at the IWL tittie! i mean title
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Post by bourbonjimbo on May 20, 2010 0:23:57 GMT -5
Should've added LTP, Malachi, Tyler Bateman, Funny Bone, and Jaysin Strife
Edit: Wanted to add this. Not knowing who Tony Kozina is in today's wrestling climate, is just bad. Kozina is responsible for one of the best, if not THE best independent wrestlers in the US today, in Davey Richards. He's also partly responsible for the training of Kyle O'Reilly, who is really coming into his own thanks to his awesome matches in EVOLVE.
There's alot of his stuff on YouTube as well..hell, check out his 6 man from one of the first EPICWAR shows.
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Post by ryke on May 20, 2010 1:25:52 GMT -5
K watched the Tony Kozina stuff.. wow my whole perspective has changed... I now see the light. I was wrong for taking an opportunity given to me by the IWL. I should have stayed another year and a half in training until the wrestling GODS above said I was "ready". ...But really, who casres If I know him. It's MY CHOICE to not know him.. I do not care if he is good, sucks, humps, ducks...lays or prays... He is Tony Kozina, the guy I don't know...
To Gary, Creativity is not following... I get understanding the past and learning from it. I get there is a whole heritage of wrestling out there that I know nothing about. I never said I was the man who was going to lead anything, hell... I don't want to. I believe that Creativity is to create.. it's in the word. It's Not Followtivity is it?
As for Mr. Saovi... I never said, nor do I think, I am GODS GIFT TO So Cal... far from it. So to ASSume that I think this is horribly wrong.
Let's discuss the ASSumptions about me for one second...
Who ever said I told the IWL or hinted... shit even suggested to give me the belt so that I could take it to new heights?!?! I never once, NOT ONCE, asked for the IWL title. Sorry, never did. It was an opportunity that was for the story I was involved in at the time with Doom. If you want to take this to behind the scenes Danny, lets get this straight... I like you actually. I think you are a great talent... I mean if a fed gave you an opportunity to be the champ at an early stage in your career wouldn't you take it? ..............................
I am so sorry if it looked like I ever thought I was the greatest wrestler... But I am not the one stating that I could have a great match with everyone... But while we are on the subject of good matches, I think for what it was my match with Amos and DC w/ Mr. Knox was pretty good... to be honest. I'm not bragging, cause lord knows... that is blasphemy in "INDY WRESTLING".
Another ASSumption is that I didn't train... well if your year is what it took, I got 6 more months on you. As a matter of fact, about 1 month before my IWL debut, it was you who asked Johnny Paradise why I wasn't working yet... Did you forget that? And if you did... suck it.. cause you did.
I was told that I disrespected my trainer for working IWL, after Bart told me not to. Period. End of story... So IWL i stayed... And i was given great opportunities here.. I wasn't ever the one to initiate the opportunities actually.. It wasn't me at all. I may have had a hand in creating the story, but face facts... Everything you all think of me is wrong. Not once has anyone asked me if what they hear is true. Rumors... ASSumptions... Saovi... keep sucking on that teet for a while if you like but its a lie your taking in...
As for the training with me for only 5-10 times... that is because you stopped coming. Nov. 07 I think it was and you became Epic War Champion... and De La Paz and I supported you all the way and went to bat for you to Bart to book you at the time... Shit that "Textbook" joke wasn't a joke, your good man...But you took an opportunity.. And just because you didn't take the IWL title, doesn't mean that your (Gary this for you) HUMBLE. It makes you the guy who played nice and missed another opportunity... that's truth. If that is the case... I hear different.
Look all I know is my "friendships" in this business fell when I won that damn belt... Why?
PS: I am pretty sure this Poll was a joke from the get go... In the words of the mighty Chimaera.... Wrestling's Fake Guys! But c'mon Evans icking the shit out of Quinn wouldn't be fun at least? oh wait.. yeah we are in the indies where it's different than ENTERTAINMENT.. Right Johnny?
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Post by aolstudios on May 20, 2010 1:31:23 GMT -5
I think Justin's response was honest and from the heart. BTW, if anything I wrote/said hurt your feelings, I truly DO apologize, man. It really wasn't my intent. I respect where you're coming from. Peace
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Post by jimmyquinn on May 20, 2010 1:42:18 GMT -5
Yes, it might be fun to see Evans kick my ass. But listen, you are a creative guy, and so am I. Think about this for a second. In the 3+ years I have been playing the Jimmy Quinn character, for the 3+ years I have been (hopefully) annoying the crap out of the fans, for the 3+ years I have been managing, I can count on one hand the times I have been physically touched. This is not because I am a wuss (although I am). Think about it for a second...
I play the "Mastermind." I call myself "The Boy Genius of Professional Wrestling." I am the brains, and I manage guys who can and will protect my character from physical harm if someone comes after me. It makes my client seem stronger. It makes me seem weak and slimy and cowardly. It makes the audience (again, hopefully) WANT to see me get my comeuppance at some future time. So I only rarely let it happen. I am not a trained wrestler. I don't pretend to be. I know my strength lies in annoying people to death (it's a gift). So from a creative point of view, why would I allow my character to even become involved in a match against the Heavyweight Champion of a company? Especially when that Champion is my own client, whom I have just led to a major title victory. It makes no sense from a storytelling point of view, or from just about any point of view one could imagine.
I know my name being on that list is kind of a rib. I laughed. But the fact that, in both this thread and the CFTC thread, you have talked about getting me into the ring? I wouldn't want to sully the reputation of the company like that. And I wouldn't want to lower the profile of a championship like that.
Although, I kind of like seeing people say they wanna see me get my ass kicked. It means I am doing my job well, right?
Cheers, JQ
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mase58
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Post by mase58 on May 20, 2010 2:11:24 GMT -5
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ryke
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Post by ryke on May 20, 2010 2:26:27 GMT -5
regardless I still want to face you in the ring... I see value in that...
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Post by jimmyquinn on May 20, 2010 2:33:10 GMT -5
Um... oh-kay?
Wow, three days and I've already verbally destroyed somebody. I really didn't want to do that. I wanted it to be different here. I really did.
Just so I make it clear... I will not be in a match - with you or anybody else. Maybe a comedy spot like the Team HDCW vs. Negro Division Match a couple years back, but never an actual, competitive, one-on-one match. Not now, not ever. And I sure as hell wouldn't be in any title match.
Sorry, dude.
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Post by ryke on May 20, 2010 2:40:24 GMT -5
Still wanna face you in the ring...
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Post by knoxycleopatra on May 20, 2010 4:26:01 GMT -5
I want to face Graziano in the ring.
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Post by ryke on May 20, 2010 5:15:07 GMT -5
Knox.. I smell Tag Match
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Post by tonygraziano on May 22, 2010 21:08:57 GMT -5
I smell fuck you Ryke and Knox. Dicks. lol.
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